Grammar aside, the piece tends to focus a lot on all the bad things that can happen in poly relationships, like ending up with a sex addict or using it to preserve a dying monogamous relationship. What about the families who have been in their poly relationship for 12 years and counting, raised kids, and are growing old together? I agree with the above statement that this piece tends to focus on the negative. There is one paragraph about a healthy relationship and a page and a half about sex addicts and codependence.
I am a woman in a triad with my fiance a woman and our boyfriend. The communication that is necessary for a healthy poly relationship is something that every therapist would be proud of. Every feeling is processed and shared, every thought pertaining to the relationship is shared. Misunderstandings are practically non-existant because we are completely open and unafraid to say what is on our minds. We have complete trust in each other and the knowledge that together, we are a safe space.
There is no judging, there are no grudges, there is no drama, and there is no jealously that isn't resolved within a few days the time it takes for us to sit down and talk through it. There is mention that poly choses us.
I think that is a fair statement. If you are in a relationship, and you find that you have the capacity to love another person just as strongly, you're polyamorous. That's all there is to it. Polyamorous relationships take a great deal of patience, openness and time. Anything less than that is a recipe for disaster and drama. Poly relationships may be harder to maintain, but the rewards are infinitely greater. I hope, in the future, there will be some articles about how healthy polyamorous relationships work.
We don't all know what we are going in. When I was young, full of the socialization that monogamy is "just what people do," and conditioned that "this is what everyone wants," not only did I not know myself well enough to know that I was poly, I honestly never even knew that it was an option. I knew that marriages failed, and I knew that people cheated, but I THOUGHT that such were purely moral failings, not, as I now know, that some people simply didn't know that there were ethical alternatives to be sure, there are liars and cheats out there who are complete sociopaths and who then hide behind the "poly" label, but they're not part of this particular discussion and I loathe them right along with you.
I tried for a very, very long time to be monogamous. Emotionally, I failed utterly, and the shame, guilt, and self hatred has finally reached the "more than I can bear" point. There are few things worse than looking in the mirror, hating the person you see, and telling yourself that you do not deserve the person whom you love so very dearly. The only honest thing to do in this situation is to "come out" to your partner, and deal with whatever happens next. There need not have been any intent to deceive when the relationship began. In many cases, what deception there is, is the poly person attempting to deceive himself that he is mono, and attempting to deceive his partner both by concealing his feelings out of fear of hurting her, and by presenting the false image that all is well because "he's kept it in his pants.
I am not yet a success story. I've just stepped onto this ride, and it has already been both much harder than I imagined and much more rewarding--I don't know where it will go, but I can tell you that not hating yourself anymore is SO worth it. I'm so sorry your partner lied to you about being non-monogamous. Most polyamorous people agree that lying is not part of polyamory, and that if there is no honesty, there is no polyamory, but I'm sure your feelings about being deceived don't have much to do with which words are used and what they mean.
I'm all in favor of honesty and distressed when people call themselves polyamorous while lying to their partners. However, when a person calls themselves monogamous and is dishonest about having other lovers do you conclude that you're "not impressed with monogamy"? I understand that keeping a relationship, of any kind, requires active part of both parties, so for me polyamory seems lot of work. With that many Love partners I wonder how you could really have time and energy to work for your relationship with each partner.
Polyamory seems to promote shallow relationship that don't require much work, maybe people choose it for the this reason? Its like saying that a car chooses me or good luck chooses me. How could something abstract and with no brainpower whatsoever chooses anything?
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Is this another self deceptive excuse? Yes indeed it is quite a bit harder to "deal" with working on your relationship with more then one person. But also quite a bit more rewarding. I'm currently dating a married couple. None of the others have worked out and were trying to maintain this one. Communication is a huge deal, but in our situation myself and my girlfriend are commonly on the same page. It's quite a bit easier to turn of the tv when the three of us are home to discuss whatever issues exist in the household.
The more often these talks happen, the more often the issues resolve themselves before the talks. The main thing that becomes an issue is with my boyfriend. Him and his wife have an established relationship. Me and him and me and her are still in the early stages of a new relationship where were trying to figure out just where everyone is going to fit. But its quite a bit easier to be in a oily relationship then a mono one.
Honesty is needed and you don't have the normal issues to deal with. Jealousy, insecurities, and fear of loss of course comes up but to maintain the relationship these issues must be addressed. We all know in this household that we absolutely must bring these conversations up and deal with them. In that fashion, there's no hiding feelings or insecurities or else there would be no relationship. There is no reason at all that a woman can't have more than one man in a marriage. I get so sick of the morgan community and others trying to justify their lifestyle biblically while criticizing women who do the same.
We can be Christians too. Stop being sexist this is not the twentieth century. I have a husband ad boyfriend and we all love each other sexually and emotionally and have been in a relationship for many years. We are all very happy. There is nothing wrong with polyamory nor with monogamy. These ways of relating exist because they are expressions of the human mind. They do not choose you, as one writer above mentioned, but are chosen by you based upon your particular needs.
Your needs are a result of an extremely complex set of forces that act within you, all intermingling with each other in such a way that make these forces very hard to understand. What we often think of as understanding these forces is actually a simple awareness of a very small subset of them. We then identify with the subset we know or, more often, think we know , while all the other forces dynamically exert themselves on one another without our awareness of them.
How much we shed light on these forces, do away with the unhealthy ones that are grounded in delusion, and pare them down to those that are grounded in simplicity and truth is how healthy a human being we become. Health is rooted in simplicity, not complexity. This is because the more unhealthy we become as we pass through life, the more complex the forces within us become. There is no escape from this. Polyamory, by definition, is more complex than monogamy. This, by the way, is not to say that monogamy is by definition simple, because we've surely all seen plenty of overly complex and unhealthy monogamous relationships.
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But if what we are after is truth, which is where true love resides, then we cannot let our own persuasions infect how we see things. By realizing that the healthiest of polyamorous relationships are more complex than the healthiest of monogamous relationships, and by realizing that the choice between these two kinds of relationships is a reflection of our inner selves, it therefore follows that those that choose polyamorous relationships have a more complex inner world than those that choose monogamous relationships and I am referring to the healthiest forms of either kind of relationship, not unhealthy forms.
As inner complexity rises, love deflates. This is because, as mentioned above, truth is grounded in simplicity and love is always found in truth. If you want to truly find love in your life, simplify your inner world by slashing away all that is not grounded in reality. Desire above all else the health that comes from simplicity. Only then can you love, and only when you love can you be loved.
When you work through the above process of simplification, which takes the utmost focus, effort, and length of time, I am sure that you will find that, at most, you only need one partner to love. When you are sincere enough to have really done all of this work on yourself, you will truly see that the love you are seeking is inside yourself, and at that point it is no longer about finding it outside yourself but is instead about sharing it with others. You then no longer need others nearly as much as you used to, and instead are much more focused on centering your love on a single person, working to perfect it through concentrating on the yes, once again the simplicity of a single relationship.
This single relationship, now very, very healthy, becomes your focal point of expressing the love you have within you. This love is based upon extension, not need.
From nere, the next step in the evolution of love is to simplify even more by no longer needing a human relationship to focus one's love on, but instead focusing one's inner love toward God. I cannot really speak of this very much because I have not achieved this in any way, but I'm pretty sure this is the way it works. The way it works is the way it works, not the way we want it to work.
Look within and simplify, simplify, simplify. Only then will you find the love you seek. Don't fool yourself by being in a monogamous relationship when your inner world is calling you to be polyamorous. Accept this calling, but always work toward paring down your inner world until it is clean.
This "paring down" is the only real path, so follow it and then let your relationships evolve toward reflecting who you are. Accept the forms these relationships take, and keep slashing away your delusion. When you truly do this, perhaps over many lifetimes, there will only be one love left, and that will be with God. It's a place where you can share thoughts, opinions and experiences related to everything polyamory.
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Furthermore, 75 percent of polyamorous respondents were between the ages of 25 and 44—hello millennials! The majority of those surveyed also said that in their view, the number of people who identify as polyamorous is increasing, as is the number of people openly involved in polyamorous relationships. Polyamory is very different than polygamy, which is the practice of having more than one spouse at the same time, typically a wife, and is usually rooted in religious beliefs.
Different still, is an open relationship , which is one that is not sexually monogamous, but is often more about the freedom to have different casual, sexual partners outside a relationship. Polyamorous relationships can take different forms. People can also have multiple partners that are not involved with each other, which is the case for Alaina Partridge. Partridge, a year-old queer mother from Winnipeg, is romantically or sexually involved with several partners who are not in relationships with each other; she is the common thread.
On top of these relationships, she also has two ongoing friends-with-benefits relationships. None of her partners are involved with each other, but some have other partners of their own. With several relationships at once, Partridge says being open and honest with her partners is vital.
What is easy, however, is picking her plus-one to an event. But polyamory is not just about having different partners to spend time with.
What I'm saying is, there are plenty of folks I know who use the "I'm polyamorous! They could care less about the emotional relationship. They pay it lip service. As for the rest of my reframe, I think it's fair and passes muster. The most important thing when evaluating item 1 and item 2 against each other is to evaluate them against the same, and not diferent, sets of criteria. That's what I was doing with it, and what I always encourage others to do. I am a practicing non-monogamist caught somewhere in the middle between swinger and polyamorist.
I believe that a person can love more than one person physically and emotionally. I also love sex with other people besides my wife. Having variety is awesome and my wife loves it too. We are heading in the direction of being a swinger even though we open to the possibility of polyamory. I use to worry about what label I was. I would get offended if I was called a swinger. I finally got over it when a friend that knows about our open relationship called me a swinger in a joking way. Then I realized that maybe I was into that. We decided to try a party and found out that we loved it.
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It was actually mind blowing how much fun it was. The middle ground between swinging and polyamory is called swolly, according to Ken Haslam who is a poly intellectual and endowed the Kinsey Library with a polyamorous collection. I have spoken with swingers who swing with the same people for years, getting to know them outside the club and sharing holidays together. That sounds like polyamory to me, but if they identify it as swinging then who am I to tell them that they are "really" poly?
What motivates people to pursue polyamorous relationships?
Others who identify as poly have described relationships with casual and sexual focus that sounded like swinging to me, but that person defined them as polyamory. Basically, the label is a lot less important than what you do and how you treat people. But if you like swolly please feel free to use it -- Ken does: Sexual variety is not human need, and I personally don't think there's a limit within the people who want it.
I think people in polyamorous relationships cheat too. I think it just hurts and endangers more people. This article was clearly slanted in favor of polyamory. This reads like an infomercial. The more people are in a relationship, the more difficult to understand and maintain. The more gears in the machine that can break. The more trust you need, and the more likely you are to be betrayed. I think it's far less likely to work. It's extremely complicated and unappealing to me.
Polyamory is not for everyone -- I do not think it will work for everyone and do not advocate everyone becoming polyamorous. This blog is not a recruiting tool, and I have no investment what so ever in you becoming polyamorous, or making anyone poly. I myself do not identify as polyamorous simply because I do not have the desire to put that much time and effort in to multiple romantic relationships. But saying "poly is not for me" is very different from saying "poly is not a legitimate relationship form and should not be for anyone.
I am not clear on why you think sexual variety is not a "human need. Just like sugar, caffeine, and Internet access are not "human needs" that does not mean that they do not make life better for the people who use them.
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Could you please explain more where you are coming from with that statement? As far as people cheating with in polyamorous relationships, you are completely correct. Some poly people cheat, and some poly people become polyamorous as an antidote to cheating. If they are doing it for the clandestine thrill of having a secret power over the partner who thinks they are in a monogamous relationship or getting really excited about the forbidden fruit nature of cheating, then polyamory will not work for them because their desire for multiple partners is not being expressed honestly -- a foundational principle of polyamory.
If polyamory is not for you then I whole hearted endorse your decision not to do it -- not that you needed my permission, but you have it anyway: Show me one, single, solitary piece of documented, researched, peer-reviewed scientific literature to back this statement up and you might have an argument to make. Otherwise, you're scraping mightily in the dirt for some reason - ANY reason - to want to copulate with anyone and anything you feel like, without having to consider what it might actually say about you as a human being.
Assuming of course that you do, in fact, like to consider yourself a human being and not simply a biological machine that is a slave a brainwashed slave, no less to hormones and physiological responses. My new book, The Polyamorists Next Door: Inside Multiple Partner Relationships and Families Rowman and Littlefield, reports on the findings from my longitudinal 15 years ethnographic study of polyamorous families with children. Google me, or check out my publications on this site or my website, elisabethsheff. I read your the book and the "research" of some of the people you name dropped.
It was all pretty shoddy. You have to do way more research than a 15 year longitudinal study to come up with conclusive findings and even the combined research of all you mentioned is inconclusive. Let me put it to you this way: Considering the millions of relationships past and present, 18 studies is still not sufficient evidence. So yes, you are scraping at the dirt. Polyamory actually saved my marriage surprisingly.
My wife wanted Poly from the beginning and I didn't.